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PLUMBING


Advance Plumbing & Heating
Walled Lake, MI
PH: 248 669-7474
Ask for Jeff Moss

There are the same typical problems in the plumbing industry as there are in many of the others.  One of the problems with plumbing is the contracts with most builders are so vague.  I have a copy I use on my contracts which spells out very clearly what you receive.  For the amount of money it cost to get really nice plumbing fixtures, it is well worth it.  The upgrade cost in most cases is so little it hardly makes sense to get the less expensive ones to begin with. 

Many plumbers do not have a show room to go to.  I had been around for quite a while before I found a company I was confident in.  One of the problems in the industry is the inability for anyone to tell you what things cost for real.  Sure, we can go to the big outlet stores which are all over the country.   But the thing most people do not understand, is the complications it makes for the building process.  Most plumbers won't guarantee the product you purchase from the big outlets.  They want the fixtures to be purchased from their outlets so they know exactly what accessories come with them.   They also get added service from their own outlet stores.  Everything is  warranted  for them, which in turn, warranty's it for you.  Its a big plus really.  To make a long story short, I like this particular company. 


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Part of Their Showroom

Life becomes so much easier when you go into a professional operation like this one and receive as much information as possible.  Lets go over a situation I have seen a few times.  You go into a showroom like this and you get the information and then you go to the big outlet store and purchase the product for (lets say) a 10% saving.  You have your plumber install it, who does not warranty it and then you have problems down the road.  What if a fitting breaks and you have water problems.  There are so many little things that can adversely happen that I cannot see trying to save 10% on fixtures and then having potential problems.  So you save $500, but you potentially have an inferior product.  I say, don't do it.  Get the right product in the first place.  I am coming out with a list of items in a book I am writing, which has recommended standard products, better than standard products, very good products and superior products.  These listed items will be able to give you a truer understanding of products than you will normally be able to perceive on your own.  

  • Try and use china over china

  • At least get Mansfield Fixtures

  • Nothing less than Delta or Moen Faucets
        Beware of brass unless its solid all the way through
        (I do not like the way it looks years down the road)
        But this is just a personal thing.

  • Kohler kitchen sinks are very nice
        (The upgrade price is not as much as you might think)

  • Whirl pool tubs need more support and need more electrical.   They also need more labor to install them.
    So expect to pay an upcharge.

  • Use the upgraded PVC in your basement and walls.  Sometimes its nice to put cast iron in your walls for the larger drains.  They are quieter.

  • I use a 50  gallon A.O. Smith separately vented high efficiency water heater as standard.  Its an excellent water heater.

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